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:::I did some research on [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help_talk:Section metawiki] and this is the reason they start at level 2. ''"So that when a user without CSS, or a text-mode browser, or a screen reader visits, they'll be presented with a page that at least has a logical document flow."'' From what I can tell, by default, the page title is rendered as a '''h1''' element. So are single '''=''' headings. Double '''==''' are '''h2''' and so on. So from that point of view it does make sense to start at two equals. I think the real issue is that the software is slightly broken in not generating an '''h2''' for a single equals sign. So, what do you think? [[User:BrettGiles|BrettGiles]] 22:36, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
 
:::I did some research on [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help_talk:Section metawiki] and this is the reason they start at level 2. ''"So that when a user without CSS, or a text-mode browser, or a screen reader visits, they'll be presented with a page that at least has a logical document flow."'' From what I can tell, by default, the page title is rendered as a '''h1''' element. So are single '''=''' headings. Double '''==''' are '''h2''' and so on. So from that point of view it does make sense to start at two equals. I think the real issue is that the software is slightly broken in not generating an '''h2''' for a single equals sign. So, what do you think? [[User:BrettGiles|BrettGiles]] 22:36, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
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::::I prefer starting with ==, like Wikipedia. —[[User:Ashley Y|Ashley Y]] 00:52, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
   
 
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Brett, this is not to offend you. It just expresses my conviction. -- Wolfgang Jeltsch

Not to worry Wolfgang - I never take offence :) - My thoughts on the usage of level 2 only were primarily due to the size balance, but also I note this is a guideline for the original mediawiki site. Does anyone know why that is? BrettGiles 22:11, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
No idea, but it seems loose to me. -- Wolfgang Jeltsch 22:40, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
I did some research on metawiki and this is the reason they start at level 2. "So that when a user without CSS, or a text-mode browser, or a screen reader visits, they'll be presented with a page that at least has a logical document flow." From what I can tell, by default, the page title is rendered as a h1 element. So are single = headings. Double == are h2 and so on. So from that point of view it does make sense to start at two equals. I think the real issue is that the software is slightly broken in not generating an h2 for a single equals sign. So, what do you think? BrettGiles 22:36, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
I prefer starting with ==, like Wikipedia. —Ashley Y 00:52, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

1.1 Page nameing

I see that we are doing renaming of pages pretty much whenever someone doesn't follow the unofficial guideline. Is it time to move that to an official guideline? Do we need a large consensus to do so or just persuade the sysops? BrettGiles 19:24, 1 March 2006 (UTC)