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What makes a guidline an "official" guidline? What's the process? —[[User:Ashley Y|Ashley Y]] 00:53, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
 
What makes a guidline an "official" guidline? What's the process? —[[User:Ashley Y|Ashley Y]] 00:53, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
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:I suspect that a large number of the users / contributors to this site have an academic background. My experience with academia is that some kind of consensus based decision is the most successful at getting the decision adopted. In a community like this wiki, I’m not sure how to get that. We could send out notices on the various mailing lists, we could post notes on the front page and probably other ways as well. Like any consensus decision making it would take a long time. On the other hand, those that support the site could just be autocratic, set the rule and if there is too much flak, change it.
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:As to what actually makes an "official" guidline, I think it is up to the '''sysops''' whether we even have such a thing. The word tends to mean that '''sysops''' are required to monitor and fix the site when these are not followed. So, we might not even want to go to official, stay at unofficial and just let the community grow the guidlines (and do the monitoring) as they see fit. Sometimes, a certain level of anarchy works fine.[[User:BrettGiles|BrettGiles]] 16:06, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

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1 Headlines

Brett, this is not to offend you. It just expresses my conviction. -- Wolfgang Jeltsch

Not to worry Wolfgang - I never take offence :) - My thoughts on the usage of level 2 only were primarily due to the size balance, but also I note this is a guideline for the original mediawiki site. Does anyone know why that is? BrettGiles 22:11, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
No idea, but it seems loose to me. -- Wolfgang Jeltsch 22:40, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
I did some research on metawiki and this is the reason they start at level 2. "So that when a user without CSS, or a text-mode browser, or a screen reader visits, they'll be presented with a page that at least has a logical document flow." From what I can tell, by default, the page title is rendered as a h1 element. So are single = headings. Double == are h2 and so on. So from that point of view it does make sense to start at two equals. I think the real issue is that the software is slightly broken in not generating an h2 for a single equals sign. So, what do you think? BrettGiles 22:36, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
I prefer starting with ==, like Wikipedia. —Ashley Y 00:52, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

2 Page nameing

I see that we are doing renaming of pages pretty much whenever someone doesn't follow the unofficial guideline. Is it time to move that to an official guideline? Do we need a large consensus to do so or just persuade the sysops? BrettGiles 19:24, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

3 Official guidelines?

What makes a guidline an "official" guidline? What's the process? —Ashley Y 00:53, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

I suspect that a large number of the users / contributors to this site have an academic background. My experience with academia is that some kind of consensus based decision is the most successful at getting the decision adopted. In a community like this wiki, I’m not sure how to get that. We could send out notices on the various mailing lists, we could post notes on the front page and probably other ways as well. Like any consensus decision making it would take a long time. On the other hand, those that support the site could just be autocratic, set the rule and if there is too much flak, change it.
As to what actually makes an "official" guidline, I think it is up to the sysops whether we even have such a thing. The word tends to mean that sysops are required to monitor and fix the site when these are not followed. So, we might not even want to go to official, stay at unofficial and just let the community grow the guidlines (and do the monitoring) as they see fit. Sometimes, a certain level of anarchy works fine.BrettGiles 16:06, 2 March 2006 (UTC)