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This does raise a point I hope we'll address more aggressively after the 7.8 release, namely trying to keep ghc less broken by default! GHC being really really really broken between releases is probably the single HUGEST barrier to more people getting involved
 in helping GHC dev. And I think thats a huge problem we need to take more seriously.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I totally agree with this.  What it needs is a Mac SWAT team who build GHC on Macs nightly, warn about problems and help fix them.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">One recent total Mac breakage was due to the compulsory move to clang instead of gcc.   I gather that has caused a lot of pain. 
 I’ve seen a lot about Xcode too, whatever that is.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Anyway, Mac folk, we need you!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> ghc-devs [mailto:ghc-devs-bounces@haskell.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Carter Schonwald<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 14 November 2013 04:24<br>
<b>To:</b> Ben Lippmeier<br>
<b>Cc:</b> ghc-devs@haskell.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: Validate broken on Snow Leopard and Mountain Lion<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Ben has an excellent point: <br>
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if things are broken on mac, lets fix it!  Especially since we should be hitting RC status shortly.... any breakages should be smashed ASAP.<o:p></o:p></p>
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This does raise a point I hope we'll address more aggressively after the 7.8 release, namely trying to keep ghc less broken by default! GHC being really really really broken between releases is probably the single HUGEST barrier to more people getting involved
 in helping GHC dev. And I think thats a huge problem we need to take more seriously.
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On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 11:09 PM, Ben Lippmeier <<a href="mailto:benl@ouroborus.net" target="_blank">benl@ouroborus.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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On 13/11/2013, at 8:02 PM, Christiaan Baaij wrote:<br>
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> Does validate work for the DPH packages on Linux?<o:p></o:p></p>
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"sh validate" runs fine on my Linux machine, but neither of my Macs.<br>
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I can also run the dph tests manually on Linux, and they work fine.<o:p></o:p></p>
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Ben.<br>
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