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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I’ve had a chat to Manuel.  He is content for us to remove DPH code altogether (not just CPP/comment it out), provided we are careful
 to signpost what has gone and how to get it back.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I am no Git expert, so can I leave it to you guys to work out what to do?  The specification is:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">It should be clear how to revert the change; that is, to re-introduce the deleted code.  I guess that might be “git revert
 <some horrible hash>”<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">If someone trips over more DPH code later, and wants to remove that too, it should be clear how to add it to the list of
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">We should have a Trac ticket “Resume work on DPH and vectorisation” or something like that, which summarises the reversion
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Just to be clear, this does not indicate any lack of interest in DPH on my part.  (Quite the reverse.)   It’s just that while no one
 is actually working on it, we should use our source code control system to move it out of the way, as others on this thread have persuasively argued.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Manuel, yell if I got anything wrong.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> ghc-devs [mailto:ghc-devs-bounces@haskell.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Carter Schonwald<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 21 January 2015 03:32<br>
<b>To:</b> RodLogic<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Manuel M T Chakravarty; ghc-devs@haskell.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: vectorisation code?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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moving it to its own submodule is just a complicated version of cutting a branch that has the code Right before deleting it from master. <o:p></o:p></p>
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afaik, the amount of love needed is roughly "one or more full time grad students really owning it", though i could be wrong. <o:p></o:p></p>
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On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 5:39 AM, RodLogic <<a href="mailto:dev@rodlogic.net" target="_blank">dev@rodlogic.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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Now, is the vectorization code really dead code or it is code that needs love to come back to life? By removing it from the code base, you are probably sealing it's fate as dead code as we are limiting new or existing contributors to act on it (even if it's
 a commit hash away). If it is code that needs love to come back to life, grep noise or conditional compilation is a small price to pay here, imho.<o:p></o:p></p>
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As a compromise, is it possible to move vectorization code into it's own submodule in git or is it too intertwined with core GHC? So that it can be worked on independent of GHC?<o:p></o:p></p>
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On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 6:47 AM, Herbert Valerio Riedel <<a href="mailto:hvriedel@gmail.com" target="_blank">hvriedel@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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On 2015-01-20 at 09:37:25 +0100, Jan Stolarek wrote:<br>
>> Here's an alternate suggestion: in SimplCore, keep the call to vectorise<br>
>> around, but commented out<br>
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> Yuck. Carter and Brandon are right here - we have git, let it do the<br>
> job. I propose that we remove vectorization code, create a Trac ticket<br>
> about vectorization & DPH needing love and record the commit hash in<br>
> the ticket so that we can revert it easily in the future.<br>
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I'm also against commenting out dead code in the presence of a VCS.<br>
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Btw, here's two links discussing the issues related to commenting out if<br>
anyone's interested in knowing more:<br>
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 - <a href="http://programmers.stackexchange.com/questions/190096/can-commented-out-code-be-valuable-documentation" target="_blank">
http://programmers.stackexchange.com/questions/190096/can-commented-out-code-be-valuable-documentation</a><br>
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 - <a href="http://programmers.stackexchange.com/questions/45378/is-commented-out-code-really-always-bad" target="_blank">
http://programmers.stackexchange.com/questions/45378/is-commented-out-code-really-always-bad</a><br>
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