Bringing back Monad Comprehensions (in style)
dons at galois.com
Wed Oct 6 12:23:35 EDT 2010
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> Good idea. I've made a new Trac ticket and responded there. I suggest that others do the same, so the conversation is captured in the ticket.
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> | -----Original Message-----
> | From: glasgow-haskell-users-bounces at haskell.org [mailto:glasgow-haskell-
> | users-bounces at haskell.org] On Behalf Of George Giorgidze
> | Sent: 05 October 2010 15:42
> | To: glasgow-haskell-users at haskell.org
> | Subject: Bringing back Monad Comprehensions (in style)
> | Bringing back Monad Comprehensions (in style).
> | Dear GHC users,
> | My colleagues and I are working on Haskell embedded DSL for data-intensive
> | and
> | data-parallel applications . The idea is to provide the Haskell list
> | prelude combinators to manipulate database-resident data. The combinators are
> | not executed in Haskell runtime, instead they are compiled down to SQL,
> | executed on relational database systems and the results are marshalled back
> | to
> | Haskell for further in-heap processing or generation of new database-able
> | embedded programs.
> | Although programming with the standard list processing combinators is
> | feasible, the embedded programs are much more concisely formulated using the
> | list comprehension notation, especially, when extended with 'order by' and
> | 'group by' constructs .
> | Unfortunately, in Haskell, the list comprehension notation is only available
> | for processing lists.
> | In order to support the list comprehension notation, we have built a
> | quasiquter that desugars the list comprehension notation, but, instead of
> | generating code using the Haskell list prelude combinators the quasiquter
> | generates code that uses list processing combinators from our embedded
> | language.
> | Although the quasiquoting approach worked for us, it has a number of
> | drawbacks:
> | * Introduces extra syntactic noise
> | * Error messages are hard to understand as they refer to generated code
> | * Needs to be re-implemented for every list-based embedded language
> | One way to address the aforementioned drawbacks is to define our queries as a
> | monad (similar to list monad) and use the monad comprehension notation. The
> | do
> | notation can be used but it is less suited for query languages.
> | Unfortunately monad comprehensions were removed from Haskell, prior to
> | Haskell
> | 98. However, I think that the notation is extremely useful not only for
> | lists,
> | but for other list like data structures, list-based query languages (see
> | above), maybe even for wider range of EDSLs and monads. I think the feature
> | deserves to be supported at least as a GHC language extension.
> | Thus, I would like to propose to design and implement the monad comprehension
> | notation as a GHC language extension. I am willing to invest some time and
> | contribute to this effort.
> | One can also look at how recently introduced 'order by' and 'group by'
> | constructs generalise to monad comprehensions. If that works, one could
> | implement even more "stylish" monad comprehension notation.
> | Feedback from GHC users and developers would be very much appreciated.
> | * Do you think that this is a good idea?
> | * Would you use monad comprehensions (if available) for your
> | library/EDSL/application?
> | * Do you think that it would be hard to integrate this extension into
> | current GHC codebase?
> | * Have you already thought about how to generalise 'order by' and 'group
> | by' to monad comprehensions?
> | * Have you already thought about how to address the original objections to
> | the monad comprehension notation?
> | Cheers, George
> |  http://www-db.informatik.uni-
> | tuebingen.de/files/weijers/IFL2010complete.pdf
> |  http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/um/people/simonpj/papers/list-comp/
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