[Haskell-cafe] Re: speed: ghc vs gcc

[minh thu]

2009/2/20 Bulat Ziganshin <bulat.ziganshin at gmail.com>:
> Hello Thomas,
>
> Saturday, February 21, 2009, 1:19:47 AM, you wrote:
>
>> I'm not sure what you're getting at Bulat √ it's been demonstrated
>> that ghc is slower than gcc for most cases at the moment (many
>> benchmarks will back this up), *however*, it's also easily verified
>> that ghc has had significantly less effort directed at it than gcc and
>> other imperative compilers, thus, there are many places it can improve
>> greatly.
>
> of course. what fool will say that ghc cannot be optimized the same
> way as gcc? if we spent the same amount of time for improving ghc
> back-end as was spent for gcc (tens or hundreds man-years?), then
> *low-level* Haskell code will become as fast as C one, while remaining
> several times slower to write
>
>> In this case, you've pointed out a really great source of heavy
>> optimisation.  Thanks a lot :)  Now perhaps it might be an idea to be
>> constructive, rather than trying to stand like nelson going "HA HA" at
>> the people with the inferior compiler.
>
> ghc is superior compiler and it's my main instrument. but it can't
> make coffee and doesn't contain sophisticated code generator. it's why
> i dissuade from writing video codes in haskell and i don't like
> situation when someone too lazy to test speed yourself tell us tales
> and attack me when i say about real situation

Please people, I found the ghc/ghc+D64/jhc/gcc/ comparison awesome to read;
but find quite distracting to have all those 'other' comments.

I guess everyone knows quite clearly what others have in mind and
where they stand.
Maybe it is not necessary to repeat those things every time ? And more
specifically,
is it necessary to get some inflamatory tone ?

Thanks to share knowledge and haskell love !
Thu