[Haskell-cafe] Merry monad mixup?

Daniel Peebles pumpkingod at gmail.com
Fri Jan 28 20:47:28 CET 2011


And by "works", I mean, ListT is is a monad only if the internal monad is
commutative.

On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 2:46 PM, Daniel Peebles <pumpkingod at gmail.com>wrote:

> Beware of ListT. It only works if your internal monad is commutative, which
> IO is not. (Maybe would work, for example)
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 2:41 PM, Chris Smith <cdsmith at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 2011-01-28 at 11:20 -0800, michael rice wrote:
>> > The first and third work, but not the second. Why?
>>
>> When you use a do block, it can be the syntactic sugar for whatever
>> monad you like; but you do have to make a choice.  Your first example
>> had a do block for the IO monad.  Your third example used the [] monad.
>> Both are fine.
>>
>> The second, though, wasn't clear on what monad it was using.  When you
>> used the (<-) syntax to nondeterministically choose from a list, the
>> compiler settled upon the [] monad.  But then the next line was a
>> statement in the IO monad.  That's inconsistent, hence the error.
>>
>> Perhaps you wanted to build a monad out of both behaviors?  In this
>> case, you should likely look into monad transformers, and in particular,
>> the ListT monad transformer in the List package.  This would allow you
>> to write the code you did in a monad called ListT IO, except that the IO
>> actions would need to be lifted through the use of either `lift` or
>> `liftIO`.
>>
>> --
>> Chris Smith
>>
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