[Haskell-cafe] OSX, ghci, dylib, what is the correct way?

Brandon Allbery allbery.b at gmail.com
Sun Jun 12 21:32:09 CEST 2011


On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 15:17, Jason Dagit <dagitj at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 11:45 AM, Brandon Allbery <allbery.b at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 14:31, Jason Dagit <dagitj at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> If I build the C library as a .a, then ghci comlains that it cannot
>>> open the .dylib.  My first question is: Why does ghci need a .dylib
>>> and does it really use it?
>>
>> Static libraries are... static.  ghci would have to rebuild itself
>> against the static archive to use it; that's how static archives work.
>>  Dynamic libraries are dynamic because they can be loaded at runtime
>> instead of compile time.
>
> Interesting.  When I use dtruss to see what files ghci opens, it
> definitely opens .a files.  That gave me the impression it knows how
> to open a .a and use it at run-time.

I would have to see a trace to be certain what's going on there, but
what exactly does "static library" mean if static libraries are
actually dynamic, and why then are there dynamic libraries if static
libraries are actually dynamic?

>> [1] http://hackage.haskell.org/trac/ghc/ticket/4244
>
> It's hard for me to make sense of that ticket with so little context.
> This comment seems to go against what you're saying:
> Changed 10 months ago by igloo
>
> milestone set to 6.16.1
> The best way to achieve this is probably to switch to using dynamic
> libraries for GHCi.

The context for that remark is that GHC currently produces static
libraries which contain references to system dynamic libraries when
compiling a module; the plan is for ghc to produce dynamic libraries
instead, which will simplify things considerably.  (Come to think of
it, this is probably why ghci is reading static libraries; they're the
libHS*.a libraries and ghci is trying to find out what dynamic
libraries it's supposed to load.)  The translation of Igloo's comment
is "we should just use the system linker the way it's supposed to be
used instead of the current static+dynamic hack".



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