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    I don't know what the rule is, but I personally just replace "i.e."
    with "that is" and "e.g." with "for example" in my head, and then
    apply whatever punctuation makes sense with those substitutions.<br>
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    Cheers,<br>
    Greg<br>
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    On 7/9/10 12:17 PM, Sean Leather wrote:
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      On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 18:35, Steve Schafer wrote:<br>
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            On Fri, 9 Jul 2010 17:14:31 +0200, Sean Leather wrote:<br>
            &gt;One of the "nice" things about English is that there is
            often never an<br>
            &gt;"always." See <a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="http://grammar.quickanddirtytips.com/ie-eg-oh-my.aspx"
              target="_blank">http://grammar.quickanddirtytips.com/ie-eg-oh-my.aspx</a>
            for a<br>
            &gt;discussion.<br>
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          Well, that page pretty much confirms what I said. In AMERICAN
          English,<br>
          they're always followed by commas. The two sources mentioned
          on that<br>
          page that suggest omitting the commas (Fowler's and Oxrford)
          are both<br>
          based on UK English.<br>
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          And yet most of the other manuals describe the rule as "<font
            color="#000000">usually," "</font><font color="#000000">preferable/optional</font>,"
          and "<font color="#000000">makes good sense." That refutes
            your claim that "</font>they're always followed by commas."
          ;)<br>
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            Sean<br>
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