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Also, this is a complete aside but what the heck. :-)<br>
<br>
Has anyone else been driven crazy by the way that Java code and
libraries are documented? It seems like whenever I try to figure
out how to use a piece of Java code, the functionality is spread out
over a huge collection of classes and methods so that it is
impossible to figure out where things actually happen and how the
code is supposed to be used. Am I correct to perceive this as a
general trend in Java, or is it just the projects that I looked at
and/or my lack of experience in how Java sources and libraries are
organize?<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
Greg<br>
<br>
On 10/28/10 9:53 PM, aditya siram wrote:
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cite="mid:AANLkTin14jh3t9yKhGn=piU2JzQRMai3jo_5pX=wOqdj@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite">I understand your frustration at not having free
tested libs ready-to-go, Java/any-other-mainstream-language
programmers tend to expect this and usually get it. <br>
<br>
If a lack of libs is a dealbreaker for you and you want to use a
functional programming language with some of Haskell's advantages
(like immutability, lazy data structures and STM) I encourage you
to check out Clojure [1] a nicely designed Lisp. It is tightly
integrated in to the JVM and you have access to all the Java libs
you want. <br>
<br>
-deech<br>
<br>
[1] <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://clojure.org/">http://clojure.org/</a><br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">2010/10/27 Günther Schmidt <span
dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gue.schmidt@web.de">gue.schmidt@web.de</a>></span><br>
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0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);
padding-left: 1ex;">Hi Malcolm,<br>
<br>
well if I would like to point out that, for instance, Haskell
exists for a lot more than 10 years now, and that, while the
language per se rocks, and there are cool tools (cabal) and
libraries (list, Set, Map), there still isn't even a mail
client library, I wonder whom to escalate this to, and who is
going to do something about it.<br>
<br>
I understand some parties wish to avoid success at all costs,
while others, commercial users, benefit from the edge haskell
gives them already and which probably can help themselves in
case of, again, for instance a missing mail client library.<br>
<br>
And then there is the ones like me, which also want to benefit
from the edge Haskell gives them over users of other languages
and want to develop Real World Apps and who cannot easily help
themselves in case of a missing mail client library.<br>
<br>
<br>
So while there are many aspects of the future of haskell, who
effectively is it that steers the boat?<br>
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Günther</font>
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