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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-GB link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Thanks John,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The simple answer is that I need to be able to use HDBC in proprietary products and the LGPL makes this awkward – the most serious issue being that owners of the code base don’t want GNU licensed parts being linked into their code base. Packaging and delivery also gets complicated – (as I understand it) LGPL components can’t be delivered pre-linked, necessitating dynamic linking of the relevant libraries or supplying a GHC kit which the customer must use to assemble the product. This is all a significant drag.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Also, wouldn’t it be good to get HDBC into the Haskell Platform? – but we can’t do this while it is LGPL can we?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>On the other side, what are the risks with adopting a BSD license? Is it that somebody could fork the library into a proprietary Haskell DB library that would compete with HDBC?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Chris<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> John Goerzen [mailto:jgoerzen@complete.org] <br><b>Sent:</b> 22 February 2011 19:55<br><b>To:</b> Chris Dornan<br><b>Cc:</b> Haskell Cafe; Gershom Bazerman<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Haskell-cafe] HDBC's future and request for help<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>On 02/22/2011 01:33 PM, Chris Dornan wrote:<br>> Hi John,<br>><br>> Two thoughts: is there any prospect of making HDBC available under a<br>> BSD-like license? The LGPL license is a significant barrier for me and I<br>> expect it will be for others.<br><br>I'm happy to discuss this with people. It would be helpful to<br>understand concrete cases where this would be a problem. I have<br>permitted other code to be relicensed under BSD in the past and so don't<br>have a huge hangup about this. If it's the best thing for the<br>community, I'd be likely to do it. On the other hand, I have seen<br>numerous cases over the years where BSD code has been taken by some<br>company and essentially forked into a proprietary version. I feel this<br>is not in the long-term interests of the community, and that drawback<br>has to be weighed against any advantage.<br><br>> And, along the lines of your own comments, the ODBC interface raises a<br>> significant (technical) barrier for MySQL users. Is there any chance<br>> that we can encourage/help getting the the MySQL driver closer to<br>> production quality?<br><br>The short answer is probably to send patches to its author or fork it.<br>Or fund someone else to do so.<br><br>-- John</span> <o:p></o:p></p><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><hr size=1 width="100%" noshade style='color:#A0A0A0' align=center></div><p class=avgcert>No virus found in this message.<br>Checked by AVG - <a href="http://www.avg.com">www.avg.com</a><br>Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1435/3457 - Release Date: 02/21/11<o:p></o:p></p></div></body></html>