<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><br><div><div>On Dec 20, 2011, at 8:38 PM, Ben Lippmeier wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: 'Latin Modern Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div>Some would say that non-termination is a computational effect, and I can argue either way depending on the day of the week.</div></span></blockquote><div><br></div><div>*shrug* I figure that whether you call _|_ a value is like whether you accept the Axiom of Choice: it is a situational decision that depends on what you are trying to learn more about.</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: 'Latin Modern Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div>Of course, the history books show that monads were invented *after* it was decided that Haskell would be a lazy language. Talk about selection bias.</div></span></blockquote><div><br></div><div>True, but I am not quite sure how that is relevant to _|_...</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div>Greg</div></div><br></body></html>