<font face="verdana,sans-serif">If you can give an example of some underperforming code, I'm sure someone (or several people) on this list would be more than happy to help you make it more performant.<br><br>Generally, it doesn't take much. It's all in knowing where to look. Also, if you know performance is key, you should be using the performance-oriented data structures (ByteString, Text, Vector) from the very beginning. Personally, I never find myself using Data.Array, and rarely use String in real code. It's just not worth the performance headaches.<br>
<br>And finally, depending on what you're doing, neither Haskell, nor C might be right for you! Especially with certain numerics-related code, you might find fortran, OpenCL, or CUDA easier to make performant.<br><br>
Examples of this would be lovely.<br><br> - Clark<br></font><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 2:00 PM, Alfredo Di Napoli <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:alfredo.dinapoli@gmail.com" target="_blank">alfredo.dinapoli@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi there,<div>I'm only an amateur so just my 2 cent: Haskell can be really fast, but reaching that speed can be all but trivial: you need to use different data types (e.g. ByteString vs. the normal String type) relies on "unconventional" IO (e.g. Conduit, Iterateee) and still be ready to go "out of the base", using packages and functions wich are not in base/haskell platform (e.g. mwc-random).</div>
<div><br></div><div>My 2 cents :)</div><div>A.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 29 November 2012 18:09, Fixie Fixie <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:fixie.fixie@rocketmail.com" target="_blank">fixie.fixie@rocketmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div style="font-size:12pt;font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif"><div><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Hi all haskellers</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></span></div><div style="font-style:normal;background-color:transparent"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">I every now and then get the feeling that doing my job code in Haskell would be a good idea.</span></div>
<div style="font-style:normal;background-color:transparent"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></span></div><div style="font-style:normal;background-color:transparent"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">I have tried a couple of times, but each time I seem to run into performance problems - I do lots of heavy
computing.</span></div><div style="font-style:normal;background-color:transparent"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></span></div><div style="font-style:normal;background-color:transparent"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">The problem seems to be connected to lazy loading, which makes my programs so slow that I really can not show them to anyone. I have tried all tricks in the books, like !, seq, non-lazy datatypes...</span></div>
<div style="font-style:normal;background-color:transparent"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></span></div><div style="font-style:normal;background-color:transparent"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">I was poking around to see if this had changed, then I ran into this forum
post: <a href="http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9409634/is-indexing-of-data-vector-unboxed-mutable-mvector-really-this-slow" target="_blank">http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9409634/is-indexing-of-data-vector-unboxed-mutable-mvector-really-this-slow</a></span></div>
<div style="font-style:normal;background-color:transparent"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></span></div><div style="font-style:normal;background-color:transparent"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span>The last solution was a haskell program which was in the 3x range to C, which I think is ok. This was in the days </span><font><span style="line-height:18px">of ghc 7.0</span></font></span></div>
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<font><span style="line-height:18px;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">I then tried compile the programs myself (ghc 7.4.1), but found that now the C program now was more that 100x faster. The ghc code was compiled with both O2 and O3, giving only small differences on my 64-bit Linux box.</span></font></div>
<div style="font-size:16px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><font><span style="line-height:18px;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></span></font></div><div style="font-size:16px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">
<font><span style="line-height:18px;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">So it seems something has changed - and even small examples are still not safe when it comes to the lazy-monster. It reminds me of some code I read a couple of years ago where one of the Simons actually
fired off a new thread, to make sure a variable was realized.</span></font></div><div style="font-size:16px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><font><span style="line-height:18px;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br>
</span></font></div><div style="font-size:16px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><font><span style="line-height:18px;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">A sad thing, since I am More that willing to go for Haskell if proves to be usable. If anyone can see what is wrong with the code (there are two haskell versions on the page, I have tried the last and fastest one) it would also be interesting.</span></font></div>
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<font><span style="line-height:18px;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">What is your experience, dear haskellers? To me it seems this beautiful language is useless without a better lazy/eager-analyzer.</span></font></div>
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<font><span style="line-height:18px;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Cheers,</span></font></div><div style="font-size:16px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><font><span style="line-height:18px;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br>
</span></font></div><div style="font-size:16px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><font><span style="line-height:18px;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Felix</span></font></div>
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