<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 2:35 PM, Don Stewart <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dons00@gmail.com">dons00@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
Note, there are some issues, as this is a package in the Haskell<br>
Platform, to do with upgrading and dependent packages. We should talk<br>
first about issues there.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>An older version is in the HP, but Johan pointed out to me in a private email that the latest version is not in the HP. Here are the results of my research into that:</div>
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I'm not finding much in the way of reasons why the *Raw packages were not added or why OpenGL/GLUT were not updated.</div></span></div></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; "><div>
<br></div></span></div></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; "><div>There are these:</div></span></div></div>
<div class="gmail_quote"><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; "><div><a href="http://trac.haskell.org/haskell-platform/ticket/157" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 65, 112); ">http://trac.haskell.org/haskell-platform/ticket/157</a></div>
</span></div></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; "><div><a href="http://trac.haskell.org/haskell-platform/ticket/158" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 65, 112); ">http://trac.haskell.org/haskell-platform/ticket/158</a></div>
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<div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; "><div>That's a request for the latest version of GLUT and OpenGL. I found those via the archives but the threads are empty and no comments on the tickets.</div>
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<div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; "><div>Magnus created those tickets as a result of this thread, I believe:</div></span></div></div><div class="gmail_quote">
<div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; "><div><a href="http://projects.haskell.org/pipermail/haskell-platform/2011-February/001401.html" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 65, 112); ">http://projects.haskell.org/pipermail/haskell-platform/2011-February/001401.html</a></div>
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<div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; "><div>Is that the thread in your memory? Perhaps it was this one?</div></span></div></div><div class="gmail_quote">
<div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; "><div><a href="http://www.haskell.org/pipermail/libraries/2009-June/011920.html" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 65, 112); ">http://www.haskell.org/pipermail/libraries/2009-June/011920.html</a></div>
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<div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; "><div>That one turned into a discussion of the module system.</div></span></div></div><div class="gmail_quote">
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I added a proposal to add OpenGLRaw, but no one commented on it:</div></span></div></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; "><div>
<a href="http://projects.haskell.org/pipermail/haskell-platform/2011-March/001506.html" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 65, 112); ">http://projects.haskell.org/pipermail/haskell-platform/2011-March/001506.html</a></div>
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<div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; "><div>Based on that, it seems that Magnus wants the packages updated, and I'd like to see the *Raw packages added to the platform. I don't see any dissenting public opinions on the libraries list or on the trac, other than tickets #57 and #58 that make a case for removing OpenGL and GLUT entirely from the platform. Tickets #57 and #58 seem to be old though.</div>
</span></div></div></blockquote><div class="gmail_quote"><div> </div><div>If you have more information or I overlooked something, please let me know :)</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>Jason</div><div><br></div>
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On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 2:32 PM, Jason Dagit <<a href="mailto:dagitj@gmail.com">dagitj@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> No response yet from Sven after about a month and no one seems to have heard<br>
> from him in over a year.<br>
><br>
> I'm going to take over for now under the assumption that Sven is missing.<br>
> == My plans for moving forward ==<br>
> * Assemble an opengl taskforce, a few people have already mentioned an<br>
> interest in being on the team<br>
> * clean up the current cabal files (I already wrote patches for that)<br>
> * put the repos on github to make team collaboration easier<br>
> * add the RULES that Andy Gill suggested for realToFrac<br>
> * look at adding instances for MArray so that GLfloat et al can be stored<br>
> in IOUArrays<br>
> * add support for opengl 4.x<br>
> * look at adding deprecation pragmas for deprecated opengl calls<br>
> * new hackage releases<br>
> * anything else that comes up<br>
> Thanks,<br>
> Jason<br>
><br>
> On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 2:11 PM, Jason Dagit <<a href="mailto:dagitj@gmail.com">dagitj@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> I sent the message below to Haskell-Cafe about a week ago. I got one<br>
>> response saying that Sven has disappeared in the past but reappeared when<br>
>> updates were necessary. I still haven't heard from Sven. Now I'm widening<br>
>> my search. My original email to Sven was on March 11th.<br>
>> It looks like the OpenGL packages on hackage[1,2,3,4] have not been<br>
>> updated in some time. No updates later than Oct 2009. I tried to email<br>
>> Sven directly using the email address listed on hackage but after over two<br>
>> weeks I still haven't heard from him. I sent some patches to<br>
>> the opengl list about a week ago but I noticed that Sven hasn't posted on<br>
>> that list since Oct 2009 when he released the current version of OpenGLRaw.<br>
>> None of the public darcs repos have patches newer than Oct 2009. Also, the<br>
>> homepage url listed in the packages is a 404:<br>
>> <a href="http://www.haskell.org/HOpenGL/" target="_blank">http://www.haskell.org/HOpenGL/</a><br>
>> My concern is that Sven has disappeared for some reason. I hope he's<br>
>> well. He has always done top notch work in the past maintaining these<br>
>> libraries. Perhaps he's simply busy or lost interest?<br>
>> Does anyone know if he was looking for a new maintainer? Perhaps you've<br>
>> heard from him more recently than Oct 2009?<br>
>> If a new maintainer is needed, I would consider nominating myself :)<br>
>> Thanks,<br>
>> Jason<br>
>> [1] <a href="http://hackage.haskell.org/package/OpenGLRaw" target="_blank">http://hackage.haskell.org/package/OpenGLRaw</a><br>
>> [2] <a href="http://hackage.haskell.org/package/OpenGL" target="_blank">http://hackage.haskell.org/package/OpenGL</a><br>
>> [3] <a href="http://hackage.haskell.org/package/GLURaw" target="_blank">http://hackage.haskell.org/package/GLURaw</a><br>
>> [4] <a href="http://hackage.haskell.org/package/GLUT" target="_blank">http://hackage.haskell.org/package/GLUT</a><br>
><br>
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